Kentaro Kawamori, CEO and co-founder of Persefoni. Born in Japan, he moved to Germany at the age of two. He grew up in the countryside of Germany, an environmentally advanced country, and his interest in sustainability grew naturally.
Persefoni, a global company in the field of CO2 visualization (calculation of CO2 emissions), begins full-scale deployment in Japan.
Founded in Arizona, USA in January 2020, PersefoniIn the Series B round in 2021, we will raise $ 101 million (about 14 billion yen) from various companies such as leading institutional investors, EDF, the largest electric power company in France, and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation from Japan. The cumulative funding amount exceeds 104.9 million dollars (about 20 billion yen).
It is one of the leading companies in the CO2 visualization market, having been selected for the second consecutive year since 2022 for the “Global Clean Tech 100,” which selects the 100 best climate tech companies that investors, companies, and experts are paying attention to.
Why is Parsephoni attracting attention as CO2 emissions calculation software startups are flooded not only in Japan but around the world? Kentaro Kawamori, CEO and co-founder of Persefoni, gave an exclusive interview to Business Insider Japan in late April, talking about his motivation for founding the company, the company’s strengths, and future developments in Japan.
(Interviewer: Takashi Mitsumura, text/composition: Yoko Yuda)
Who is Parsephony
Persefoni’s name may have first been known to the world at the pitch event of “SXSW (South by Southwest) 2021”, a festival of technology, music and movies that gathers startups from around the world. It won the highest award in the Enterprise & Smart Data category.
However, Mr. Kawamori has been attracting attention even before that. In 2020, when he was the first Chief Digital Officer of Chesapeake Energy, known as a pioneer in shale gas development, he was also selected as one of Forbes’ “30 UNDER 30”, which recognizes innovators under the age of 30 who change the world. He was 28 years old at the time.
Mr. Kawamori explains why he launched a visualization (=Carbon Accounting) software company for the purpose of reducing CO2 emissions.
“Because carbon accounting was one of the trends in the market, because investors and regulators were paying attention to it, and it still is.”
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It was during my time at Chesapeake that I felt this firsthand. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) required carbon accounting disclosures showing how much CO2 was being emitted by industries with high CO2 emissions. Chesapeake was also included.
At a media roundtable held by Persefoni in Japan in late April, Kawamori said, “I had a very difficult time with the calculation and disclosure of carbon accounting required by the EPA.” However, it was this hardship that made him realize new business opportunities.
“There were so many companies working[with manual input]in spreadsheets,” he said.
For Kawamori, who had stepped up in the digital field during his career, it was natural for him to think that software could solve problems.
According to Kawamori, growing up in Germany, an environmentally advanced country, has had a big impact.
“I was born in Japan and moved to Germany at the age of 2 because my mother was German. Living in a remote German countryside surrounded by mountains and trees, I developed a love for nature and an interest in climate issues. It was only natural for me to say that.
Persephoni was an opportunity to combine sustainability and a passion for technology.It is.”
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A global market where venture companies on the verge of bankruptcy continue one after another
At the media roundtable in April 2023, Mr. Kawamori said that Persefoni’s major strengths are not only the performance of the platform, but also “strength in information from regulatory authorities and global acquisition of talented human resources.” said.
About 3 years after its founding.
The golden age of startups called the bubble has passed, and the wave is also surging into the carbon accounting field.
Mr. Kawamori points out that in the field of carbon accounting, there are a series of ventures on the brink of bankruptcy due to difficult management. The reason for this, he says, is that “the carbon accounting standards required for companies are becoming stricter, and the software is also being required to have extremely high technology.”
“It may be one of the cultures of the startup industry, but there is a custom called ‘Fake it until you make it’ that ‘I don’t care if it’s a lie until it’s realized.’ Competitors acquire customers in this way, and in reality, many of them are adopting business models such as consulting or manual carbon accounting.
But we didn’t go thereBased on a long-term strategy, we have invested heavily in R&D and focused on the original purpose of enabling automatic carbon accounting.”
For startups to survive, it is important to develop their business based on a long-term vision and strategy.
Kawamori knew this firsthand, having been a venture partner at an investment fund targeting early-stage SaaS companies before founding Parsefoni and selling a software company he co-founded to a consulting firm.
“For startups, it is very important to raise funds from investors, turn it into the black over several years, create a business that does not rely on venture capital, and stand on its own. They can’t cross the ‘valley of death’ and are eliminated before they can turn a profit.”
Persefoni will also launch a service equipped with AI from the fourth quarter of 2022 (October to December). In April 2023, the company announced that it will be equipped with three AI functions: data anomaly detection, data inconsistency detection and resolution, and emission factor recommendations based on user activity data. We are making steady progress.
Raises $100 million in R&D and ‘no bargain’ strategy
Persefoni’s business overview.
Mr. Kawamori says that startup business tends to:
“There is a tendency to rush to collect the funds raised and sell products and services even when the unit economics (profitability per customer) is bad. It will end.”
points out. That’s why Parsefoni says, “We don’t sell cheap.”
“Our strategy is to share the recognition among the executives that we will sell products at a minimum price of this level, and to first make strong investments in R&D to expand our market share, and from there we will steadily move into the black. Investors also understand our long-term strategy and consider our growth over a span of four to five years.”
It’s no coincidence that it’s been blessed with investors.
Kawamori said in March on the American podcast “Category Visionaries,”When it raised $101 million in a series B round in 2021, it intentionally avoided Silicon Valley investors due to the special environment of 2021, which was said to be the start-up bubble.We know the importance of the carbon accounting category and chose investors who have a long-term perspective, rather than investors who seek short-term profits.
As a result, Parsefoni “expects to be able to stand on its own in about two years.”(Mr. Kawamori). As of April 2023, we have acquired more than 225 customers globally, mainly in the major manufacturing, energy, and financial industries. “By the end of 2023, it’s expected to be two to three times that size,” Kawamori said in the podcast mentioned earlier.
Carbon accounting must have the same reliability as financial accounting
Whenever Kawamori talks about Persefoni’s strengths, he always mentions “reliability.”
“Trust is one of the main pillars of Parsefoni’s corporate philosophy because we consider carbon accounting to be similar to financial accounting.
No one uses financial accounting software that can’t come up with the right numbers.In the same way, carbon accounting will also need to be audited and guaranteed in the future, so our top priority is to develop reliable software.”
Parsefoni actively recruits not only tech personnel but also those with experience in regulatory authorities such as the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and is also strong in regulatory trends related to climate change. At the aforementioned roundtable, Mr. Kawamori spoke about the trend of tightening regulations in the future, while also touching on the perspective of audit firms.
“The trend in the world that is currently attracting the most attention is the trend of disclosing Scope 3. Audit firms called Big 4 such as PwC also focus on it
However, in the United States, it is said that a movement to firmly guarantee Scope 3 carbon accounting will begin as early as 2024.”
persefoni ai carbon accounting
A recent trend in the carbon accounting field is a business model that combines carbon offset trading. However, Persefoni closed its carbon offset marketplace in April 2023.
Persefoni’s commitment to reliability is reflected in its thinking about carbon offsets.
In the global carbon accounting market, which is becoming a red ocean, a business model that combines carbon offsets and anticipates intermediary fees is attracting attention. However, in April 2023, Persefoni announced a stance on its blog that sets it apart from such trends.
“Persefoni believes that companies that provide GHG emissions accounting, reporting, and visualization services should not profit from the trading of carbon credits. Because it’s related.” (From Persefoni Blog)
Parsefoni used to run a marketplace with a carbon offset trading startup, but said in a blog post that it has decided to drop it. A spokesperson for Persefoni later responded, “The marketplace has been discontinued and there is no possibility of doing business at this time.”
Full-scale deployment of services in the Japanese market. What is your strategy?
Persefoni, which has begun full-scale entry into the domestic market, is targeting companies listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Prime Market. However, 99% of Japanese companies are SMEs, and as supply chain companies dealing with large companies, carbon accounting for SMEs is also an urgent issue. The company also plans to offer a “free” platform for small businesses.
“We are developing a free version of Persephony called Essential. Currently, we have about 15 companies around the world using the prototype version, and we hope to release it globally in 2023 or early 2024. ”
The free version is simple and easy to use without individual support. For that reason, they are considering installing a function to answer questions from users in real time with ChatGPT.
It also has a Scope 3 Data Exchange (S3DX) function that allows smooth exchange of emissions data with supply chain companies.
“We believe that the combination of Essential and the Scope 3 Data Exchange will make sharing data with our supply chain very smooth.”
In addition to calculating and reporting emissions, the Net Zero Navigator, which supports the setting of targets and reduction plans in accordance with SBTand their implementation, was also developed in collaboration with major consulting firm Bain & Company. and launched in April 2023. Currently, it is a function that can be used by companies that have introduced the base platform, but in the future we plan to respond to the needs of using Net Zero Navigator alone.*SBT: Science Based Targets. Science-based emission reduction targets set by companies that are consistent with the levels required by the Paris Agreement.In recent years, the number of participating companies has increased rapidly, and as of March 2023, the world’s4614 companiesJapanese companies in May
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“Go to Market” system in Japan is ready
Parsephoni started general availability of the Japanese version in January 2022. What are your thoughts on the response?
“Kento Miura, who was the country manager of Japan and South Korea for Apple Pay (Apple Pay, Wallet, and Payments), was appointed as the country manager of the Japanese subsidiary Persefoni Japan in May 2022. We have been building a team that can ‘go to market’ every year.”In April 2023, Mr. Shinji Tsukamoto, who has held key positions at Microsoft and Amazon Ads, was also appointed Global Chief Commercial Officer (CCO) and APAC Vice President.“As is the case in the United States, we first gather talented leaders, who then gather strong team members to acquire core customers and partners. It is a plan to continue.
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